Post subject: Re: Boss Roland Space Echo RE-20. Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:49 pm. Moderator: Joined: Sun Mar 12, 2006 4:03 pm Posts: 3615 Location: Gotham City Never heard the new version of the RE-20 space echo. But I had the real thing for a while. (the same Randy had) I liked it, lots of possibilities. But it was a little too noisy in front. Ryan plays with the RE-20 Space Echo from Boss/Roland. If this is too redundant, I apologize and will delete. However, I am looking into both of these now. About a week or two ago, I was certain i was going to get a Space Echo. Now after looking at features on both models, I am leaning towards a DD20. I want this to be a discussion as to for my needs, and based on your trials/ownership, what would be the better suit for me. I love the type of delay sounds EJ gets on his solos. It is ambient and doesnt take over. You hear the trails but it feels apart of the guitar (I know a lot of that is attributed to his overall rig too and echoplexes). I currently use a (dont laugh) Behringer Delay as my main solo sound. I am happy with the sound but want to upgrade. I also use a H20 in tandem at times for ambient sounds and even longer ambient trails. I like the slap back sound but it is not my go to sound. Ambience is basically my thing as I like to fill space in the songs/rooms with my band where it is needed; tastefully. I am in a rock band playing originals.rock as in mxing STP w/ Live w/ Blues and 90's influences. Based on what I have researched, these are the feautures I like/dislike; this is what i ahve found in both Space Echo: -Clips (and name even) do the ambient thing well -Tap tempo -EQ on the repeats (bass, treb) -Click wheel = easy access to 12 different sounds/modes -Buttons appear to be very easy to work -No presets? -No modulation? DD20: -Clips sound good and it can do ambience/tape/analog/modulate/reverse -tap tempo -memory for presets -Looper -more buttons = seems harder to work -ambient sounds as good as RE-20? Im not good with difficult pedals. But I am willing to put in the learning curve for these two, but the RE-20 just seems like it would be a breeze to work with by the looks of it. Lastly, are each fo these better out front or in the loop? I am using a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe now and wont be changing that for quite some time. Thanks for any input. I own the DD-20. I haven't had any experience with the RE-20. I own a EP-3, DD-5, DD-20, AD-80, First Act Delay, Effectron and have sold many others. I love the DD-20. Enough that I bought it twice. I have owned real tape Space Echos in the past and think the tape simulation on the DD-20 is pretty darn good. Spyro the dragon psp cso files psp. Nothing warbles and sounds as organic as the EP-3 but if I was told today I had to live with only one delay the DD-20 would probably be the one. I use my delay for spacey, ambient tyoe stuff as well as Built to Spill type stuff and the DD-20 works fine. I like the versatility of the DD-20. I own a DD 20 and I love it! As far as delays go, you cant do much better for the price, and that being said, even high end models (T Rex Replica, etc.) can't do the variety of things that the DD 20 can (reverse, dual mode, etc). My 2 cents is this: the Space Echo does sound okay. And it will be good to add ambiance, etc. But I would stand by my theory that says with a little experience the DD 20 (and really, delays in general) they can be used to do what the Space Echo can, and so much more. True, there is no 'ambiance' knob on the DD 20, but as you being to play you can begin to discover how to create tons of space in your playing. (Dont be scared of the controls. They're cake!) Hope that helps. I bought a DD-20 when they first came out and it knocked a Line6 DL-4 off my pedalboard. So far even though I've tried several of the cool boutique delays nove have taken the place of the DD-20 for it's versatility and overall good tone. I bought a RE-20 when they came out back in the summer and I thought it was great, very warm and 'spacey' sounding. For atmospheric effects it's about the best non-tape echo I've heard. That said, after the fun of playing with the RE-20 wore off and it came time to get back to using delays in a more traditional setting the DD-20 still won out. One of the things that really killed the RE-20 for me (and I should have checked before buying it) is the fact that while you can tap in tempos, you can only tap in straight quarter notes (or eighth notes if you tap twice as fast ), no dotted eighth 'Albert Lee' or 'Edge' delays, and I use these quite a bit. In the end I sold the RE-20 because it wound up just sitting on the shelf. But like I said, it WAS cool to play with for the spacey, atmospheric stuff.
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